Comments on: The “Truck” and the “Driver”. http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/ a campaign to expose the truth of 4/29 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:38:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: drew http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-769 drew Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:20:53 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-769 Okay, this article goes just a little too overboard. A 14 minute response time from the fire department is certainly not suspicious when there's no traffic near a major city center. The driver says he 'blacked out' (this doesn't imply he was unconscious, it's probably just a poor choice of words), then remembers walking around disoriented...he probably just had a lapse in memory from right after wrecking. This is also not suspicious (he did just wreck a truck). Also, I think he stopped a passing cab (you really think he called a cab service while too disoriented to know what he was doing?). And since this did occur at an interchange, he might have walked quite a distance before hitching the ride. Even if he didn't get the ride before emergency services arrived at the scene, he might have been missed if he had walked to a different road (he could have walked half a mile in 10 minutes, three quarters in 15). He "jumped free and escaped the fireball". That's not necessarily miraculous, as I've read several other tanker accidents resulting in fires where the drive escaped relatively unharmed (the load is behind the cab, and as the truck is moving forward, leaking fuel will have a tendency to spread away from the cab, at least in theory, as well as there being a possibly delay between wrecking and ignition). "Those agents for some reason allowed “a person with a criminal background to drive a truck carrying more than 8,000 gallons of gasoline through a densely populated area.”" That comment is loaded. If you mean the TSA as "Those agents", they did not do all of the below...they only granted the driver a security clearance to obtain a HazMat endorsement on a Commercial Driver's License. Not all felony convictions are disqualifying for a Hazmat endorsement. Also, according to the link provided in the article, "There is also a five-year waiting period after a convict is released from prison. Since Mosqueda was released in 1998, he appears to have become eligible in 2003." If he should have been permanently disqualified for his offences, then the TSA DID make a mistake, but the article is too vague on his actual criminal record to jump to that conclusion. "County officials knew for 12 years that such an accident was possible, and yet for some reason they did nothing to stop it." That makes no sense, either...if it's a poorly designed ramp, what are they going to do, rebuild the entire interchange to prevent one possible accident? There are many, many worse junctions and roads, yet nothing is done to correct them. Does that mean there's a conspiracy in every situation a bad roadway design exists, and isn't corrected? That's silly. The Jesus comment says nothing about his credibility. That's like wrecking and "Thanking God I'm alive", then having someone say "You shouldn't thank God, you wrecked." The above article is way off on that one. Diesel fires do not melt steel, they don't get hot enough to. We all know that. However, heating steel DOES weaken it and reduces it's useful load. I think 9/11 was a conspiracy, but this particular blog entry doesn't make much of a case for this wreck (but the question remains, where is the tanker in the pictures? There should be truck remains SOMEWHERE) Okay, this article goes just a little too overboard. A 14 minute response time from the fire department is certainly not suspicious when there’s no traffic near a major city center.

The driver says he ‘blacked out’ (this doesn’t imply he was unconscious, it’s probably just a poor choice of words), then remembers walking around disoriented…he probably just had a lapse in memory from right after wrecking. This is also not suspicious (he did just wreck a truck).

Also, I think he stopped a passing cab (you really think he called a cab service while too disoriented to know what he was doing?). And since this did occur at an interchange, he might have walked quite a distance before hitching the ride. Even if he didn’t get the ride before emergency services arrived at the scene, he might have been missed if he had walked to a different road (he could have walked half a mile in 10 minutes, three quarters in 15).

He “jumped free and escaped the fireball”. That’s not necessarily miraculous, as I’ve read several other tanker accidents resulting in fires where the drive escaped relatively unharmed (the load is behind the cab, and as the truck is moving forward, leaking fuel will have a tendency to spread away from the cab, at least in theory, as well as there being a possibly delay between wrecking and ignition).

“Those agents for some reason allowed “a person with a criminal background to drive a truck carrying more than 8,000 gallons of gasoline through a densely populated area.””

That comment is loaded. If you mean the TSA as “Those agents”, they did not do all of the below…they only granted the driver a security clearance to obtain a HazMat endorsement on a Commercial Driver’s License.

Not all felony convictions are disqualifying for a Hazmat endorsement. Also, according to the link provided in the article, “There is also a five-year waiting period after a convict is released from prison. Since Mosqueda was released in 1998, he appears to have become eligible in 2003.” If he should have been permanently disqualified for his offences, then the TSA DID make a mistake, but the article is too vague on his actual criminal record to jump to that conclusion.

“County officials knew for 12 years that such an accident was possible, and yet for some reason they did nothing to stop it.” That makes no sense, either…if it’s a poorly designed ramp, what are they going to do, rebuild the entire interchange to prevent one possible accident? There are many, many worse junctions and roads, yet nothing is done to correct them. Does that mean there’s a conspiracy in every situation a bad roadway design exists, and isn’t corrected? That’s silly.

The Jesus comment says nothing about his credibility. That’s like wrecking and “Thanking God I’m alive”, then having someone say “You shouldn’t thank God, you wrecked.” The above article is way off on that one.

Diesel fires do not melt steel, they don’t get hot enough to. We all know that. However, heating steel DOES weaken it and reduces it’s useful load. I think 9/11 was a conspiracy, but this particular blog entry doesn’t make much of a case for this wreck (but the question remains, where is the tanker in the pictures? There should be truck remains SOMEWHERE)

]]> By: Michelle Kwan http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-735 Michelle Kwan Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:41:06 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-735 Hello webmaster...I Googled for american flag hat, but found your page about ....and have to say thanks. nice read. Hello webmaster…I Googled for american flag hat, but found your page about ….and have to say thanks. nice read.

]]> By: 4/29truth.com » Blog Archive » Chinese Agents target Bay Bridge, Crab Markets Panic http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-719 4/29truth.com » Blog Archive » Chinese Agents target Bay Bridge, Crab Markets Panic Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:02:15 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-719 [...] truck driver (who conveniently didn’t remember his own accident) had a glaring criminal record and a history of previous safety violations on his truck. In [...] [...] truck driver (who conveniently didn’t remember his own accident) had a glaring criminal record and a history of previous safety violations on his truck. In [...]

]]> By: 4/29truth.com » Blog Archive » What the Government Knew http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-473 4/29truth.com » Blog Archive » What the Government Knew Thu, 10 May 2007 00:37:01 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-473 [...] we noted that the driver, a repeat felon, would be an easier target for pressuring from a rogue officials or [...] [...] we noted that the driver, a repeat felon, would be an easier target for pressuring from a rogue officials or [...]

]]> By: Christopher Scafidi http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-360 Christopher Scafidi Thu, 03 May 2007 16:42:00 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-360 So, xLittleP, am I correct in understanding you that trauma entitles you to leave the scene of a horrible accident you just caused? I had no idea. I'm sure the driving public will be glad to know that once the fires starts all you have to do to escape prosecution is claim trauma and leave the scene. So, xLittleP, am I correct in understanding you that trauma entitles you to leave the scene of a horrible accident you just caused? I had no idea. I’m sure the driving public will be glad to know that once the fires starts all you have to do to escape prosecution is claim trauma and leave the scene.

]]> By: Angela Motorman http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-274 Angela Motorman Wed, 02 May 2007 21:05:33 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-274 That wasn't a "truck" at all -- it was a minivan. Mosqueda is a dupe -- he was left behind to confuse first responders. The minivan driver has a history of such attacks, and here's the proof: http://angelamotorman.blogspot.com/2007/04/slow-down-youre-reading-too-fast.html Jeesh. You people are so gullible. Just think about it, will you? That wasn’t a “truck” at all — it was a minivan. Mosqueda is a dupe — he was left behind to confuse first responders. The minivan driver has a history of such attacks, and here’s the proof:
http://angelamotorman.blogspot.com/2007/04/slow-down-youre-reading-too-fast.html
Jeesh. You people are so gullible. Just think about it, will you?

]]> By: dave http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-220 dave Wed, 02 May 2007 17:40:50 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-220 hay i can be retarded to ok here it goes. rosie on the view said fire cant melt steel, president bush herd this and got mad so he turned on his mind control device he has under the white house,and ordered the truck driver who sadly didn’t have his tin foil hat on to crash the tanker into the bridge so it cant melt proving fire can melt steel. i heard that arnold paid for the gas out of his own account, and to cover it up bush, and arnold sent the truck driver back in time to the dark ages so no one would find him. now i heard that this is just the start , bush, and arnold are going gather all the republicans, and they are going to blow up all the bridges befor the election so people cant vote so the republicans can steal the election to start a new 1000 year Reich but instead of killing the jews there going to cleanse the world of democrats, and liberals all lefties. if anyone is interested im going to start a web site called 65millionbctruth.com, and im going to expose how bush killed the dinosaurs with nuclear weapons. hay i can be retarded to ok here it goes. rosie on the view said fire cant melt steel, president bush herd this and got mad so he turned on his mind control device he has under the white house,and ordered the truck driver who sadly didn’t have his tin foil hat on to crash the tanker into the bridge so it cant melt proving fire can melt steel. i heard that arnold paid for the gas out of his own account, and to cover it up bush, and arnold sent the truck driver back in time to the dark ages so no one would find him. now i heard that this is just the start , bush, and arnold are going gather all the republicans, and they are going to blow up all the bridges befor the election so people cant vote so the republicans can steal the election to start a new 1000 year Reich but instead of killing the jews there going to cleanse the world of democrats, and liberals all lefties. if anyone is interested im going to start a web site called 65millionbctruth.com, and im going to expose how bush killed the dinosaurs with nuclear weapons.

]]> By: Doodle Bean http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-210 Doodle Bean Wed, 02 May 2007 16:44:12 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-210 Gary Ogletree, Well said, my son! Well said! Absolutely nobody could be under the influence or fall asleep and have an accident on that ramp! Thanks for the data and stay sharp! Gary Ogletree,

Well said, my son! Well said! Absolutely nobody could be under the influence or fall asleep and have an accident on that ramp!

Thanks for the data and stay sharp!

]]> By: Doodle Bean http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-209 Doodle Bean Wed, 02 May 2007 16:42:27 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-209 Liberalator, Despite the distinctly liberal sound of your name, I have to agree with you that the driver's name is quite suspicious! Why hasn't anyone else connected the Islamofascifeminazipinkocommiemoonbat dots?! Why???!?!?!?!?!?!??! Liberalator,

Despite the distinctly liberal sound of your name, I have to agree with you that the driver’s name is quite suspicious! Why hasn’t anyone else connected the Islamofascifeminazipinkocommiemoonbat dots?!

Why???!?!?!?!?!?!??!

]]> By: xLittleP http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-196 xLittleP Wed, 02 May 2007 15:46:59 +0000 http://www.429truth.com/2007/04/30/the-truck-and-the-driver/#comment-196 I like what you're doing here, but I have to take issue with your assumption that "If the Lord was with him, wouldn’t he have avoided the crash altogether?" First of all, the Lord works in mysterious ways. Other than that, this is just the dude's reverend thanking God for his friend's safety. You're trying pretty hard if you're going to pen even his reverend as in on it all. And I'm not saying that you should ignore him just because he's a reverend and supposed to be a good person, I'm just saying that the reverend is going to be pretty far removed. He probably just showed up at the hospital to see his friend, talked to him before reporters got there, and then was the only person the reporters could interview at the hospital. And Chris, you would be a pretty cruel prosecuting attorney if you expect that someone with second degree burns who just escaped an explosion should sit and wait around for emergency units to respond. You can't have a clear mind after that. It's just too post-traumatic. Like I said, I like what everyone's doing here, questioning the story. I just think we should be trying to ask the right questions. Like Gary Ogletree's for instance; how do you crash a truck on that turn? At what speed must you be going to do that? What to the tire tracks tell us? I like what you’re doing here, but I have to take issue with your assumption that “If the Lord was with him, wouldn’t he have avoided the crash altogether?” First of all, the Lord works in mysterious ways. Other than that, this is just the dude’s reverend thanking God for his friend’s safety. You’re trying pretty hard if you’re going to pen even his reverend as in on it all. And I’m not saying that you should ignore him just because he’s a reverend and supposed to be a good person, I’m just saying that the reverend is going to be pretty far removed. He probably just showed up at the hospital to see his friend, talked to him before reporters got there, and then was the only person the reporters could interview at the hospital.

And Chris, you would be a pretty cruel prosecuting attorney if you expect that someone with second degree burns who just escaped an explosion should sit and wait around for emergency units to respond. You can’t have a clear mind after that. It’s just too post-traumatic.

Like I said, I like what everyone’s doing here, questioning the story. I just think we should be trying to ask the right questions. Like Gary Ogletree’s for instance; how do you crash a truck on that turn? At what speed must you be going to do that? What to the tire tracks tell us?

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